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| + Pyrus | Oct 10 2012, 04:47 PM Post #16 |
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If your opponent doesn't see it coming, it's a sucker punch. |
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| + Clearin | Oct 10 2012, 04:56 PM Post #17 |
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There's no real proof burning shot increases speed or power as far as I know. In fact Thunder Flash is very heavily implied to be his best technique anyway. |
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| filter | Oct 10 2012, 05:07 PM Post #18 |
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additionally pikons species may exhibit pain differently than goku. its a flimsy argument. also pikkon beats everyone |
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| + miguelnuva | Oct 10 2012, 09:47 PM Post #19 |
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SPC still didn't know Pikkon was coming, it was a surprise attack on a suppressed Cell. SSJS don't get Zenkai's so Goku didn't get one especially considering he was dead. Pikkon didn't tank the punch it sent him flying so he's not 2x SSJ Goku which SPC is over 2x SSJ Goku. Either Pikkon was going all out and had a slight edge over Goku thus catching Cell of Guard or Goku used SSJ2 like the BT games said and that would put Pikkon as stronger than SPC. |
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Oct 10 2012, 10:12 PM Post #20 |
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wrong, pikkon had that fight easy, gokus best wasnt enough, that point wasnt stressed MORE in that saga. What goku was doing strength wise WASNT ENOUGH. That logic is weak. |
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| + Clearin | Oct 10 2012, 10:20 PM Post #21 |
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Everyone knows Goku was weaker, but the gap between even full power Perfect Cell and Goku would result in a stomp. Pikkon had an upperhand but he was far from winning effortlessly like Super Perfect Cell could have. |
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Oct 10 2012, 10:26 PM Post #22 |
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but the whole srgument against what i just stated was about strength, equaling goku with pikkon simpy because he over ran perfect cell. if anything the gaps arent that big and im right about only needing to be a certain amount of power over a users max ability. Pikkon had that over cell in spades, toriyama himself created this saga, i keep trying to tell people that cell was treated like a joke after he died the first time. Goku didnt fight cell because he wasnt ready, pikkon intervening not only displayed HIS power, but exactly what being around cell even meant for goku, nothing much to deal with. Gokus own training is what got him and his son to SSJ2, so thats not an issue, by his own admission it took him years to master the ssj3 form, he was only dead for seven....he stressed that for anyone to assume he meant more than couple, let alone a few... all im saying. |
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Oct 10 2012, 11:23 PM Post #23 |
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pikkon has the blazing shoot so he would win all his matches |
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| + Pyrus | Oct 11 2012, 02:56 AM Post #24 |
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Do you have proof that AT created the saga? If you're claiming Goku didn't think much of Cell after just dying because of him, I can't agree with that. Cell was still very relevant to the Super Saiyan 2s of the Boo Saga. |
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| Kblo247 | Oct 11 2012, 04:25 AM Post #25 |
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Saying Pikkon didn't essentially sucker punch Cell while he was flying at Goku, base Goku at that is akin to saying Gohan and Krillin didn't sucker punch Dadoria because he was going after Dende and later Gohan. It wasn't a shot in the back ala Krillin @ Recooome but it damn sure was a cheap shot with someone's attention diverted elsewhere Edited by Kblo247, Oct 11 2012, 04:26 AM.
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